diff --git a/Doc/library/stdtypes.rst b/Doc/library/stdtypes.rst
index a47e1ffb1a6afb1..988db3803867447 100644
--- a/Doc/library/stdtypes.rst
+++ b/Doc/library/stdtypes.rst
@@ -1169,7 +1169,8 @@ Sequence types also support the following methods:
    :no-contents-entry:
    :no-index-entry:
    :no-typesetting:
-.. method:: sequence.index(value[, start[, stop]])
+.. method:: sequence.index(value, /)
+            sequence.index(value, start=0, stop=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the index of the first occurrence of *value* in *sequence*.
 
@@ -1896,7 +1897,7 @@ expression support in the :mod:`re` module).
       'Python'
 
 
-.. method:: str.count(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: str.count(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of substring *sub* in the
    range [*start*, *end*].  Optional arguments *start* and *end* are
@@ -1995,7 +1996,7 @@ expression support in the :mod:`re` module).
       0123    01234
 
 
-.. method:: str.find(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: str.find(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the lowest index in the string where substring *sub* is found within
    the slice ``s[start:end]``.  Optional arguments *start* and *end* are
@@ -2072,7 +2073,7 @@ expression support in the :mod:`re` module).
    .. versionadded:: 3.2
 
 
-.. method:: str.index(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: str.index(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Like :meth:`~str.find`, but raise :exc:`ValueError` when the substring is
    not found. For example:
@@ -2504,7 +2505,7 @@ expression support in the :mod:`re` module).
       *count* is now supported as a keyword argument.
 
 
-.. method:: str.rfind(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: str.rfind(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the highest index in the string where substring *sub* is found, such
    that *sub* is contained within ``s[start:end]``.  Optional arguments *start*
@@ -2521,7 +2522,7 @@ expression support in the :mod:`re` module).
    See also :meth:`find` and :meth:`rindex`.
 
 
-.. method:: str.rindex(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: str.rindex(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Like :meth:`rfind` but raises :exc:`ValueError` when the substring *sub* is not
    found.
@@ -3602,8 +3603,9 @@ binary data. These restrictions are covered below.
 The following methods on bytes and bytearray objects can be used with
 arbitrary binary data.
 
-.. method:: bytes.count(sub[, start[, end]])
-            bytearray.count(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: bytes.count(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+            bytearray.count(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+
 
    Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of subsequence *sub* in
    the range [*start*, *end*].  Optional arguments *start* and *end* are
@@ -3706,8 +3708,8 @@ arbitrary binary data.
    The suffix(es) to search for may be any :term:`bytes-like object`.
 
 
-.. method:: bytes.find(sub[, start[, end]])
-            bytearray.find(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: bytes.find(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+            bytearray.find(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the lowest index in the data where the subsequence *sub* is found,
    such that *sub* is contained in the slice ``s[start:end]``.  Optional
@@ -3730,8 +3732,8 @@ arbitrary binary data.
       Also accept an integer in the range 0 to 255 as the subsequence.
 
 
-.. method:: bytes.index(sub[, start[, end]])
-            bytearray.index(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: bytes.index(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+            bytearray.index(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Like :meth:`~bytes.find`, but raise :exc:`ValueError` when the
    subsequence is not found.
@@ -3798,8 +3800,8 @@ arbitrary binary data.
       *count* is now supported as a keyword argument.
 
 
-.. method:: bytes.rfind(sub[, start[, end]])
-            bytearray.rfind(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: bytes.rfind(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+            bytearray.rfind(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Return the highest index in the sequence where the subsequence *sub* is
    found, such that *sub* is contained within ``s[start:end]``.  Optional
@@ -3813,8 +3815,8 @@ arbitrary binary data.
       Also accept an integer in the range 0 to 255 as the subsequence.
 
 
-.. method:: bytes.rindex(sub[, start[, end]])
-            bytearray.rindex(sub[, start[, end]])
+.. method:: bytes.rindex(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
+            bytearray.rindex(sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)
 
    Like :meth:`~bytes.rfind` but raises :exc:`ValueError` when the
    subsequence *sub* is not found.
diff --git a/Lib/test/test_inspect/test_inspect.py b/Lib/test/test_inspect/test_inspect.py
index 7351f97fd9a4b5c..e017d0a6c2c0e89 100644
--- a/Lib/test/test_inspect/test_inspect.py
+++ b/Lib/test/test_inspect/test_inspect.py
@@ -6167,11 +6167,11 @@ def test_builtins_have_signatures(self):
             'object': {'__class__'},
         }
         methods_unsupported_signature = {
-            'bytearray': {'count', 'endswith', 'find', 'hex', 'index', 'rfind', 'rindex', 'startswith'},
-            'bytes': {'count', 'endswith', 'find', 'hex', 'index', 'rfind', 'rindex', 'startswith'},
+            'bytearray': {'endswith', 'hex', 'startswith'},
+            'bytes': {'endswith', 'hex', 'startswith'},
             'dict': {'pop'},
             'memoryview': {'cast', 'hex'},
-            'str': {'count', 'endswith', 'find', 'index', 'maketrans', 'rfind', 'rindex', 'startswith'},
+            'str': {'endswith', 'maketrans', 'startswith'},
         }
         self._test_module_has_signatures(builtins,
                 no_signature, unsupported_signature,
@@ -6368,7 +6368,7 @@ def test_typing_module_has_signatures(self):
             'Generic': {'__class_getitem__', '__init_subclass__'},
         }
         methods_unsupported_signature = {
-            'Text': {'count', 'find', 'index', 'rfind', 'rindex', 'startswith', 'endswith', 'maketrans'},
+            'Text': {'startswith', 'endswith', 'maketrans'},
         }
         self._test_module_has_signatures(typing, no_signature,
                 methods_no_signature=methods_no_signature,
diff --git a/Objects/bytearrayobject.c b/Objects/bytearrayobject.c
index 696ddad8efaae55..57d06acb9a72dd2 100644
--- a/Objects/bytearrayobject.c
+++ b/Objects/bytearrayobject.c
@@ -1247,13 +1247,12 @@ bytearray_dealloc(PyObject *op)
 /*[clinic input]
 @permit_long_summary
 @critical_section
-@text_signature "($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)"
 bytearray.find
 
     sub: object
-    start: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='0') = None
+    start: slice_index = 0
          Optional start position. Default: start of the bytes.
-    end: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = None
+    end: slice_index(c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = sys.maxsize
          Optional stop position. Default: end of the bytes.
     /
 
@@ -1265,7 +1264,7 @@ Return -1 on failure.
 static PyObject *
 bytearray_find_impl(PyByteArrayObject *self, PyObject *sub, Py_ssize_t start,
                     Py_ssize_t end)
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=413e1cab2ae87da0 input=df3aa94840d893a7]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=413e1cab2ae87da0 input=71e48ba61755c729]*/
 {
     return _bytearray_with_buffer(self, _Py_bytes_find, sub, start, end);
 }
diff --git a/Objects/bytesobject.c b/Objects/bytesobject.c
index f63185e14284b1a..f0c5e74ebe4a8da 100644
--- a/Objects/bytesobject.c
+++ b/Objects/bytesobject.c
@@ -2015,13 +2015,12 @@ PyBytes_Join(PyObject *sep, PyObject *iterable)
 
 /*[clinic input]
 @permit_long_summary
-@text_signature "($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)"
 bytes.find
 
     sub: object
-    start: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='0') = None
+    start: slice_index = 0
          Optional start position. Default: start of the bytes.
-    end: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = None
+    end: slice_index(c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = sys.maxsize
          Optional stop position. Default: end of the bytes.
     /
 
@@ -2033,7 +2032,7 @@ Return -1 on failure.
 static PyObject *
 bytes_find_impl(PyBytesObject *self, PyObject *sub, Py_ssize_t start,
                 Py_ssize_t end)
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=d5961a1c77b472a1 input=47d0929adafc6b0b]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=d5961a1c77b472a1 input=38e75762b6c6c8a8]*/
 {
     return _Py_bytes_find(PyBytes_AS_STRING(self), PyBytes_GET_SIZE(self),
                           sub, start, end);
diff --git a/Objects/clinic/bytearrayobject.c.h b/Objects/clinic/bytearrayobject.c.h
index 41ce82c05c57d97..68cb942e2a8bfb7 100644
--- a/Objects/clinic/bytearrayobject.c.h
+++ b/Objects/clinic/bytearrayobject.c.h
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ bytearray___init__(PyObject *self, PyObject *args, PyObject *kwargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytearray_find__doc__,
-"find($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"find($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start:end].\n"
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ bytearray_find(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytearray_count__doc__,
-"count($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"count($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of subsection \'sub\' in bytes B[start:end].\n"
@@ -252,7 +252,7 @@ bytearray_copy(PyObject *self, PyObject *Py_UNUSED(ignored))
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytearray_index__doc__,
-"index($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"index($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start:end].\n"
@@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ bytearray_index(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytearray_rfind__doc__,
-"rfind($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rfind($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start:end].\n"
@@ -358,7 +358,7 @@ bytearray_rfind(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytearray_rindex__doc__,
-"rindex($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rindex($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start:end].\n"
@@ -1882,4 +1882,4 @@ bytearray_sizeof(PyObject *self, PyObject *Py_UNUSED(ignored))
 {
     return bytearray_sizeof_impl((PyByteArrayObject *)self);
 }
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=6dc315d35de3e670 input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=eb65b0d03b34d7e6 input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
diff --git a/Objects/clinic/bytesobject.c.h b/Objects/clinic/bytesobject.c.h
index ee2b737f9e63f97..0598201a2810cd8 100644
--- a/Objects/clinic/bytesobject.c.h
+++ b/Objects/clinic/bytesobject.c.h
@@ -316,7 +316,7 @@ bytes_join(PyObject *self, PyObject *iterable_of_bytes)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytes_find__doc__,
-"find($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"find($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start,end].\n"
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ bytes_find(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytes_index__doc__,
-"index($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"index($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start,end].\n"
@@ -418,7 +418,7 @@ bytes_index(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytes_rfind__doc__,
-"rfind($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rfind($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start,end].\n"
@@ -469,7 +469,7 @@ bytes_rfind(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytes_rindex__doc__,
-"rindex($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rindex($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in B where subsection \'sub\' is found, such that \'sub\' is contained within B[start,end].\n"
@@ -623,7 +623,7 @@ bytes_rstrip(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(bytes_count__doc__,
-"count($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"count($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of subsection \'sub\' in bytes B[start:end].\n"
@@ -1455,4 +1455,4 @@ bytes_new(PyTypeObject *type, PyObject *args, PyObject *kwargs)
 exit:
     return return_value;
 }
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=c20458db7a2123db input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=4a4c26423d743589 input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
diff --git a/Objects/clinic/unicodeobject.c.h b/Objects/clinic/unicodeobject.c.h
index d0753b38843fccf..5a967c0f633302a 100644
--- a/Objects/clinic/unicodeobject.c.h
+++ b/Objects/clinic/unicodeobject.c.h
@@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ unicode_center(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(unicode_count__doc__,
-"count($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"count($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of substring sub in string S[start:end].\n"
@@ -365,7 +365,7 @@ unicode_expandtabs(PyObject *self, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs, PyOb
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(unicode_find__doc__,
-"find($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"find($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in S where substring sub is found, such that sub is contained within S[start:end].\n"
@@ -421,7 +421,7 @@ unicode_find(PyObject *str, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(unicode_index__doc__,
-"index($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"index($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the lowest index in S where substring sub is found, such that sub is contained within S[start:end].\n"
@@ -1072,7 +1072,7 @@ unicode_removesuffix(PyObject *self, PyObject *arg)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(unicode_rfind__doc__,
-"rfind($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rfind($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in S where substring sub is found, such that sub is contained within S[start:end].\n"
@@ -1128,7 +1128,7 @@ unicode_rfind(PyObject *str, PyObject *const *args, Py_ssize_t nargs)
 }
 
 PyDoc_STRVAR(unicode_rindex__doc__,
-"rindex($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)\n"
+"rindex($self, sub, start=0, end=sys.maxsize, /)\n"
 "--\n"
 "\n"
 "Return the highest index in S where substring sub is found, such that sub is contained within S[start:end].\n"
@@ -1916,4 +1916,4 @@ unicode_new(PyTypeObject *type, PyObject *args, PyObject *kwargs)
 exit:
     return return_value;
 }
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=9d243c63e951e31d input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=bee76c3a598ef563 input=a9049054013a1b77]*/
diff --git a/Objects/unicodeobject.c b/Objects/unicodeobject.c
index 3c689761de9b199..f2a093a59b96562 100644
--- a/Objects/unicodeobject.c
+++ b/Objects/unicodeobject.c
@@ -11429,13 +11429,12 @@ PyUnicode_AppendAndDel(PyObject **pleft, PyObject *right)
 
 /*[clinic input]
 @permit_long_summary
-@text_signature "($self, sub[, start[, end]], /)"
 str.count as unicode_count -> Py_ssize_t
 
     self as str: self
     sub as substr: unicode
-    start: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='0') = None
-    end: slice_index(accept={int, NoneType}, c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = None
+    start: slice_index = 0
+    end: slice_index(c_default='PY_SSIZE_T_MAX') = sys.maxsize
     /
 
 Return the number of non-overlapping occurrences of substring sub in string S[start:end].
@@ -11447,7 +11446,7 @@ notation.
 static Py_ssize_t
 unicode_count_impl(PyObject *str, PyObject *substr, Py_ssize_t start,
                    Py_ssize_t end)
-/*[clinic end generated code: output=8fcc3aef0b18edbf input=c9209e05438cc352]*/
+/*[clinic end generated code: output=8fcc3aef0b18edbf input=2970c103ff09da26]*/
 {
     assert(PyUnicode_Check(str));
     assert(PyUnicode_Check(substr));